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My Diablo Cody issues
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[info]avphibes
So you may or may not have heard of this new screenwriter Diablo Cody, who wrote this acclaimed indie movie "Juno" and is now the toast of Hollywood and just won an Oscar. I have issues with this that are many and varied. First, however, I'll say what I thought of the movie:

"Juno" was a movie that I 80% loved and 20% hated. Starting off, the dialogue was so affectedly and self-consciously "hip" that it felt like fingernails on my psychic chalkboard and I didn't know if I could tolerate a whole movie of it. The "look how clever I am!" non-sequiturs were also pretty obnoxious. Like the whole bit about "pork swords." That line was totally irrelevant and was just shoehorned into the script for the sake of saying "pork sworks" (oh man, could you just DIE! the kids are gonna think this is HIGH-larious!), and it FELT shoehorned into the script. So many lines seemed to be there as some sort of "ta-da! this script is CLEVER! SEE!" Once the movie got rolling, though, it eased up, got into a groove and was cute and fun to watch with plenty of laffs and a pretty deft ending that managed to be simultaneously sweet and believable. It managed to strike that hit-making balance where it was quirky enough to be "indie" but could still play to middle america since it was, at it's core, a feel-good pro-life movie about love and family.

This leads to an interesting observation I've made when talking to people about this movie: Young people seem much more likely to think that it was "trying to hard" and "overrated," while middle aged people all seem to think it's fantastic and brilliantly written (and when I say "middle aged people, I am referring to baby boomers even though I am technically middle aged). To be honest, I'm not 100% sure why this is, but I have a theory: Young people are hip enough to know hip and be critical of things that are trying to be hip, which they are judging within the context of hipness. Middle aged people are not so hip, so they are judging outside the context of hipness and therefore just think "oh, those kids are so clever!"

But my issues, for the most part, do not revolve around Diablo Cody or "Juno," so much as they are focused on the hype surrounding the aforementioned. The hype, I'll admit, is torturing my soul.

Firstly, the hype about the writing... People are talking about this like it's brilliant, genius, amazing writing. The hottest new writer to hit hollywood! This tortures me for two reasons: First is the fact that I think this overestimation is the result of hollywood stupidity...the same hollywood stupidity that gives people acting oscars for wearing makup instead of for acting. It's mistaking showy writing (in the form of all those "ta-da! I'm clever!" lines) for good writing. The frustrating thing for me is that the good writing in the movie was the stuff that wasn't showy, but the showiness (which I considered the flaw in the writing) is being mistaken for genius. It was a good screenplay, but I think it's being mistaken for a brilliant screenplay for the very reason I think it's not brilliant. When I took costume design in college, I was taught an important lesson which I never forgot: "If you go to a play and all you notice are the costumes, the costume designer did a bad job." And so I feel like if you go to a movie and all you notice is the writing, the writer got a little overzealous. But unfortunately, everybody else seems to not notice if something is good if there's not a sign hung on it.

But really, let's get beyond my abstract opinions of "quality" and get to the personal issues...

My personal issues started when I read a big article about Diablo Cody in some magazine prior to the release of "Juno." The article was long and fawning. Get a load of this: Diablo Cody has tattoos! and Hangs out in dive bars! And she wrote a blog! and she was a stripper...but she's actually smart and snarky! Can you believe what a stunningly unique voice she is?

And so I'm sittting there gape-mouthed thinking "Has nobody in hollywood ever heard of a hipster?" This shock was then followed by a rush of indignation that the scores of women I know who are smart, snarky writers with dive-bar-going, tattoo-having, blog-writing proclivities and racy pasts have suddenly been dismissed wholesale as nonexistent, because Diablo Cody is a "unique" voice. It's the chagrin of seeing someone treated like a unique daisy picked from a barren desert when they are, in fact, just the daisy in the daisy field that got picked.

The style of Diablo Cody's writing is more or less the style that young women of a more ironic bent have been putting out for the past decade. In fact, one of the first thoughts I had watching "Juno," was that many of her witty turns of phrase reminded me of various contemporary young woman authors, (and several livejournalers!) And there was even a moment when, because of the ridiculous nom de plume, I actually thought "'Diablo Cody'...haha very funny...who is this really? It must be someone I know, right? I know way too many clever women who fit this bill..." And then my issues turn to a feeling of helpless envy...why wasn't it one of us?

Of course, I know why it wasn't ME. Because I never wrote a screenplay, or, for that matter, ever thought it would be a good idea to write a screenplay and, if I did, I don't know that I ever would have finished it. And so, as I read the many accolades for "Juno" and see it win the acadamy award for best screenplay, I'm sitting here filled with dumbfounded angst, thinking: "That's all it took? That's what Hollywood wanted all along? Why didn't I write a screenplay? Why didn't I change my name to 'Tucson Chupacabra' and go make a million dollars? WHHHHHYYYYYY???"

Of course, with Hollywood being as trend-driven as it is, it would seem that now would be the time for snarky young women to sell screenplays. So let's get on it, ladies! GO GO GO!

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Yeah, I had the identical reaction to all of this stuff. The movie was tolerable, though I thought it lacked any kind of real character development, and so was ultimately forgettable. The first 25 minutes, though, man... I cringed about once every 10 seconds. The whole thing came off like a bad first draft from someone trying waaaaay too hard. The worst part of the movie, by far, was the dialogue, and hey look it just won best screenplay.

at least there's this

did you read her book? she can really turn a phrase.

I haven't read her book, but I'm sure it's much better than the screenplay because she writes like a book-writer which can translate kind of clumsily to screenplays. (I guess my thought after "has noone in hollywood ever heard of a hipster?" was "Has nobody in hollywood read books?")

I really liked the movie but an Oscar for the screenplay... eh... not so much. It was like a Tom Robbins novel. The first one you read is an exciting breath of fresh air, but then you read the next one and realize they're all the same goddamn thing.

This one got my $10 to see in the theater. The next one's a rental.

I've been trying to tell people that about Tom Robbins for awhile, and NO ONE LISTENS.

Do you mind if I love you a little right now?

Funnily enough, I feel like I could have written this entry. I sang in four years of high school chorus with a director who always told us that if someone in the audience could pick out an individual singer's voice, that that singer was doing a bad job. The dialogue in the first scene totally made me want to scrape out my eye sockets with a grapefruit spoon, and I had trouble relaxing through the rest of the movie (decently-structured as it was) because every time I would sit back for the ride, I'd be like, "Uh-oh...what if THAT happens again?"

My primary hype-related issue is that I have a problem with women who decide to "slum" in sex work for the life experience/writing material/bad girl quotient. As far as I'm concerned, that's a story that should have been told once, and once only.

In conclusion, I will say that I have sat through far worse material just to watch Jason Bateman and Allison Janney do their thing.

Eventually we can just assume that every girl in a titty bar is just there to work on her memoir or her masters thesis in women's studies.

Two women on opposite coasts, work together via an evil kid's artwork. (an unknown boy at his Mac) They dream of cell phone companies that do not drop calls and bill accordingly, copyright issues and ninja those on ebay that steal artwork......do they Transform?????? They are the VERO ladies gals. Ok, yes I am that lame! Hope all is well.

I'm going to write a screenplay about vehicles who turn into giant robots and fight each other. Do you think I'll get sued?

Dear Tucson Chupacabra, I will totally go see your movie.

I liked Juno, but I didn't think it was, like, pure genius or anything. It kept my attention, and it was fun and cute. The dialog seemed really stilted for the first ~10 minutes or so, but I didn't notice it so much after that. I'm not sure if it calmed down, or I just got acclimated to it.

Mostly I'm in shock at the fact that I saw three pro-life movies in a single year (and that there were three pro-life movies in a single year) and that I didn't hate any of them. I don't watch the Oscars: did they introduce a new category for this?

Yeah, you described my feelings exactly. It was about ten minutes of "I can't deal with this" and then I got into it and I'm not sure if it got less stilted or if I got used to the stiltedness.

What were the other two pro-life movies? I feel like I haven't seen one since "Saved."

Ellen Page pisses me off. If she were older, she would be fine, but it's the fact that she knows she's only 21, looks 12, and acts about 38.

The irony is that it's her mature vibe (Positively or negatively) and consciousness that detract from her being this believably pregnant, normal girl from middle America. She spends more time trying to seem smart than being smart, and in that she goes back on herself, and mirrors 90% of youth today. More, maybe.

I haven't seen Juno, nor do I wish to see it, but the problem with "smart" film or smart music, or smart ANYTHING is that when everybody is into it and everybody gets it...it's clearly not smart, because the majority isn't. "Everybody" loves The Simpsons, right? I do. I've noticed, however, that there are people who laugh at Homer hitting himself with a hammer, and people who laugh at the multi-levelled jokes such as Homer saying "I told you last night, NO!" in reply to "It's 11 o' clock! Do you know where your children are?".

If something is truly smart, hardly anybody will get it. People like things to be just smart enough to not be dismissable, but dumb enough for them to get it. Your daisy analogy is perfect, really. I've been pushing that notion about The Beatles and Nirvana (Two good bands, in my opinion) for as long as I can remember. Right place, right time, right audience. There were people as good and BETTER before, during and after those bands times. Juno is a daisy in the same field, just more tolerable.

I don't like people who backlash against something just because it's hyped, eg; Cloverfield (Which I don't believe will ever get the credit it deserves), but backlash when it's deserved is fine.

-David

It's the smart/dumb balance which is really the holy grail of entertainment, so I have to give kudos to people who can pull it off.

I don't know if Shakespeare originated this or if he's just the one who gets all the credit...but I refer to things like "The Simpsons" as "Shakespearean" because they manage to work on entirely different levels simultaneously to appeal to a broad audience. Shakespeare plays had all kinds of pretty poetry to appeal to the upper classes, but were also full of jokes about farts and boners for the rabble.

The Simpsons follows this tradition: Biting satire for the smarties, people getting whacked in the head for the dummies, and a wholesome family message for all!

I am optioning the rights to this blog.

[info]lady_i

2008-02-25 11:36 pm (UTC)

My name is Tamale von Kumquat and after 6 years of film school, I have been trained to be told by someone might know because they talked to some bartenders with tattoos and wife beaters that work at hot dive bar that looks like a living room and has Pabst on tap, what the kids like these days and you, girlfriend, are it!

It's gonna be box office boffo!

Re: I am optioning the rights to this blog.

[info]girlafraid

2008-02-25 11:52 pm (UTC)

*poke* - audition sucked!

I saw Juno. It was what it was - I don't get it either. What pisses me off is this whole stripper shit. The media is acting as if she's turned water into wine or something. So because you've worked in the sex industry you have no other talent but working the pole/phone? God help me if I ever make it ...

Nope. As above. Strippers can only hope to join the cast of reality shows or become porn stars. It is not as if anyone ever worked their way through college/grad school as a stripper/domme/etc., because it was more lucrative than babysitting, temping or waitressing.

They are all tacky, brainless sluts -- it's a scientific FACT!

Also, she wore Glen Quagmire's curtains to the Oscars. What's up with that?

Why didn't I change my name to 'Tucson Chupacabra'

SRLSY. It's not too late...

Also, whatever become of the Bee-otch barristering?

the legal dialogue is still in process...

Portrait of the writer as a young hottie

[info]substitute

2008-02-26 03:05 am (UTC)

There's always the latest young, charismatic, and therefore genius-quality writer. We had a particularly bad run of those in the 1980s (Tama Janowitz, anyone?). Youth, a good set of cheekbones, and hipster credibility will get flogged in public every time.

At least this one exists, unlike J.T. Leroy!

A slight tangent, with regards to the whole stripper thing:

While watching the Academy Awards (well, for the hour or so before I fell asleep), I got into a discussion about Jenna Jameson, and her whole blow up at the AVN awards (which, for the unaware, basically amounted to a speech saying, "Now that porn has made me mainstream famous, I've decided that I hate porn, so fuck you all."). If Diablo Cody's star continues to rise, it'll be interesting to see how she handles the stripper thing: will she do a Jenna Jameson, and denounce her past, or will she be able to present it as an important, influential part of her past that just isn't who she is anymore?

Well, I'm curious, at least.

If I am perfectly honest it was the twee indie rock that drove the biggest wedge between me and that movie. I felt it should have come with a warning:

Warning: This is mostly for upper middle class McSweeney's reading white people who like things like The Decemberists and Yo La Tengo. If you don't like those things or if (gasp!) you don't even know what any of those cultural references mean( yes, you black guy in the center aisle and you foreign exchange student in the front row) you might not like it....you might hate it.

I don't understand how this movie plays in other countries (it won a BAFTA in England, oddly enough), I hardly understood some of the references they made. It is so for a specific demographic (that I am not a part of). I wish it would have never surfaced.

best pseudonym ever!

I haven't seen Juno yet (I would for Michael Cera, regardless), but the name Diablo Cody has been sticking in my craw for months. like, that better be her birth name, or her goth boyfriend's dying wish that she take his name and then she married someone named Cody. Hate hate hate.

Mostly, though, I'm just fed up at hearing her endlessly described as a "stripper turned writer," as though it's this insane rags-to-riches story in which a topless dancer learns to read at 18 and magically writes a brilliant screenplay. Cody graduated from the University of Iowa with a degree in Media Studies and was a working writer when she decided to strip for blog fodder, which went over so well she did it for a year.

She's a writer turned writer turned writer, for pity's sake, not some poor little naked prodigy who's been suddenly catapulted into a new realm of existence. I hate the condescending questions she gets asked in interviews, which all follow the stripper turned writer narrative. "How was it making the transition from stripper to writer?" SHE WOULDN'T KNOW. blargh. and ditto everything you said.

Re: TUCSON CHUPACABRA!

[info]marlowe1

2008-02-26 03:26 pm (UTC)

And why didn't [info]docbrite get those stories? She did get interviewed about the stripping but it wasn't the focus.

My friend said it very succintly:

When Juno realizes her water has broken and she's about to give birth, she yells "Thundercats are goooo!"

except...

The right pop culture reference is "ThunderBIRDS are go." Remember that weird puppet series from the 60s? In Thundercats, they said, "Thundercats, hoo!"

I strongly believe Cody was wanting to reference Thundercats, it being more pseudo-hipsterish to like awfully cheesy cartoons from the 80s.

It's really stupid if Cody fucked it up by accident. It's really stupid if Cody fucked it up on purpose. It's really stupid if you're trying to say Juno fucked it up because she was stressed and giving birth.

Either way, it's just as you said. Completely pretentious and subtle as a punch to the face.

That being said, I like your review a lot!

And all I thought on that line (another eye-roller) was "Why would a contemporary teenager make thundercats references? This movie is so written by someone in their 30s."

I think I've eased into a gentle senility where I could overlook the hipness of the lines - as self-conscious as they were - and enjoy the fact that the older characters played by Jason Bateman and um - what's her name - married that Ben guy - Jennifer Garner were these fully realized characters. Bateman as the "adult" who misses his adolescence and his youth and doesn't realize that writing jingles is a much cooler job than working in a garage and playing guitar in a garage band and Garner who is actually an adult and has to get rid of a manchild in order to get a real child.

But really my favorite lines were all Michael Cera's bits. Especially the one about "don't say you were bored. There were several good movies on tv that night."

Daiblo now has a the backpage column in Entertainment Weekly, FYI.

What REALLY pissed me off about the Oscars was what a piss-poor show it was (with the exception of Jon Stewart). Boo-hoo...they only had a week with the writers. Excuse me, but these people are supposed to be entertainers (and are paid ridiculous amounts of money for the privelege) and they can't ad lib a 2 minute presentation (or even memorize the lines spoon fed to them, nevermind give them any life)?!?! It's appalling, especially after seeing what folks in the burlesque scene do at moments notice, with some spit and glitter and very little financial compensation. The Golden Pastie awards at NYBF were a thousand times more entertaining than what was supposed to be the most expensive Oscar show ever. And those montages? I know about a 100 people who could have put together better pieces on their home computers while high on pastie glue.
My hope is that Diablo Cody's breakthrough will mean a lot more "smart, snarky writers with dive-bar-going, tattoo-having, blog-writing proclivities and racy pasts " will now have more opportunites to improve on situations like this. Sure, the way Hollywood works, that will mean a whole slew of supposedly "hip" content that is truly scorn-worthy, but it may also mean a few more genuinely talented people get a chance where they may not had one before.

Re: On the other hand...

[info]marlowe1

2008-02-26 05:39 pm (UTC)

It will be like the early 90s all over again.

Tank Girl II here we come.

"I'm pretty sure someone's slutty grandmother in Boca Raton wore this to Red Lobster on Unlimited Shrimp Night in the hope that she could eat all she wanted and still get groped by Original-Teeth Jim."

Now that's funny!

Diablo Cody: Poseur extraordinaire

[info]rant79

2008-02-26 08:48 pm (UTC)

I knew there was a reason I liked you, Miss Phibes. Liked you enough to get one of your pieces tattooed on my hip in fact (see userpic).

I am so sick of hearing about Diablo Cody, and I think if I ever encounter the twat I'm going to throw feral kittens at her.

Now, in all fairness I will preface the rest of my rant with saying that no, I have NOT seen Juno, and I have NOT read Candy Girl. Mainly b/c I don't want to give this moron any of my money. Once I can get them at the public library for free, I will check them out.

Here is what I can tell to be the public "image" of Diablo Cody:
An intelligent, brazen young woman with spark and attitude. She has divulged the secret world of the sex industry by writing a tell-all expose on the strip clubs she worked at, and has now gone from rags-to-riches with the success of her now Oscar winning screenplay for the sleeper hit "Juno."

And here's what I actually know about this girl:
-She grew up in a fairly affluent family in a suburb of Chicago (that's not brought up as a classist statement, it's pertinence will be apparent shortly).

-She moved to the Twin Cities AREA to be with her boyfriend (then husband, who she has now kicked to the curb now that she's famous).
She got a job with Citypages, our local alt-minded publication. She wrote for them and did fine.

-She *decided* to become a stripper. She was not forced into it for any financial reasons or otherwise (see: affluent suburban family), it was totally free will. She then decides to write a "tell all" memoir of the sex industry. Nevermind that her experience offers no insight into what real sex workers go through. She opted in, and could and did opt out whenever she wanted. Sounds to me like someone was jut desperate for something "controversial" to write about. And FYI the (former) strippers I've met said that her book is BS and doesn't even show anything of the real scene.

-She apparently (and again I admit I haven't read it), repeatedly rips into Minneapolis in the book Candy Girl. Look lady, this is my town, and you moved here, and if you didn't like it you should have LEFT. Not to mention the fact that the twit was (according to my sources) living in freaking ROBBINSDALE (which for you non-locals is a shit-tastic suburb north of town) so for her to be ripping on Minneapolis from this experience would be like me living in Buffalo and saying I hated living in NYC.
Rumour has it she also wrote most of Juno at the Target food court in Crystal (another god forsaken, ugly ass 'burb). Excuse me miss big bad hipster thang, why in god's name were you hanging out in CRYSTAL????? whatsa matter, is the big bad city too scary for you???

Apparently she also makes some choice statements in the book such as "not being a stripper b/c of any past issues," that she "wasn't molested as a kid or anything but that's probably because she wasn't a pretty kid."
do I even need to explain what's wrong with this sentence......

And now the twat is totally happy to be listed as "Minneapolis Screenwriter" Diablo Cody. And take advantage of places like the Walker screening her film b/c she's "from here."

Fuck off Diablo Cody. And stay out of my city. You're not wanted.

---Annie
55406 zip code, 612 area code,
In the HEART of Minneapolis, MN; a.k.a. the Arts capital of the Midwest. And damn proud of it.



Re: Diablo Cody: Poseur extraordinaire

[info]marlowe1

2008-02-26 09:25 pm (UTC)

Oh come on. She's not THAT bad.

I still have that "I wonder if she knows my friends" feeling since the arts community in Minnesota isn't that big. But I can give her the benefit of the doubt in that the stripper book was a first novel and we all bitch about our jobs in our stories. And our home towns.

Or adopted home towns.

And Juno did include Mpls place settings.

Overhyped yes, but not awful.

Still - writing in a Target food court - is that news? Every Starbucks in the world is infested with screenwriters. One of them had to find success.

And I kind of like her EW articles.

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