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An interesting case of female perfectionism
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[info]avphibes
So, awhile back I read the book Play Like a Man, Win Like a Woman, which attempts to present different ways in which women operate and are perceived in a business environment. One of the interesting points the author presents is that, while men are more comfortable jumping into a situation half-cocked and sorting things out as they go along, women generally want to be completely prepared before entering a situation.

I imagine this is the combined result of women in male-dominated situations getting more flak if they screw up or appear incompetent, and the fact that women are generally more sensitive about getting said flak and take it worse, emotionally, than a man would. The downside is that this would seem to lead to women seeming more timid or not seizing opportunities as quickly as a man would. The possible upside, however, is that this implies that when such a woman does seize an opportunity, she is probably much better prepared to tackle it. I thought of this recently when I was reading some interesting stats about eating gigantic steaks.

I'm sure most of you have heard of the Big Texan 72 oz. steak challenge, wherein patrons of the Big Texan steakhouse can take the challenge of eating a 72 oz. steak, salad, potato, roll and shrimp cocktail in one hour (without puking). If they succeed, they get the meal for free and bragging rights for life. So according to the Big Texan stats, approximately 50,000 people have made the attempt since 1960, and only 8,500 have succeeded, making the success rate around 17%.

BUT, among women, the success rate is 50%. There are also considerably fewer women who make the attempt. Only about 4-5 per year. What this implies is that, while men will more likely do it on a lark, women probably don't even try unless they actually think they can do it.

I'm sure not all women are like this, but I would say that I probably am. If I were planning to go to the Big Texan and take the 72oz. challenge, I'd be, like, training for six months. I wouldn't just go in there and "give it a try." I don't even know if my crippling fear is of failing or being criticized for failing, but either way, it's not entirely healthy and has undoubtedly held me back in life.

Still, though, if I tell you I'm going to the Big Texan, you can probably safely bet that I'm going to eat that whole steak.

Hi from Joy's friend Catherine :)

[info]seventhnotebook

2008-09-23 06:52 pm (UTC)

I signed up for a LiveJournal account so I can comment here. Neato huh?

So you go, girl. I can't wait hear how you do! Also, please report whether the steak and other food was worth all the effort, quality wise. Have fun! Seems like a the stuff you mentioned from the book hits the mark as generalities. Everybody's wired up a bit differently, and all bets would be off for me given differences in circumstances (including motives and how well in check my impulse control was, on my end), but yeah. I may pick that up, too. I like men a ton and find learning about the differences between men and women really interesting.

Re: Hi from Joy's friend Catherine :)

[info]avphibes

2008-09-23 07:05 pm (UTC)

Hi!

Although I tend to get tantalized by ridiculous challenges and the fantasy of winning them, I think my energy would be better spent training to do something more productive than eating a giant steak. Therefore, I'm not sure this is something I would ever do. I wish I had known about it when I was a 100lb. teenager with a ludicrous-speed metabolism... I think I definitely could have done it then.

I hope you'll come visit my blog here.

A steak like that can earn a person a lot of respect! I'm sure my guts would prolapse if I tried it, I've been off the beef for quite some time.

I think, on a subconscious level, you chose the Big Texas steak as an example because you secretly WANT TO TRAIN for a steak off.

And I can imagine nothing more wonderful than hearing about a Big Texas victory for A.V. Phibes in six months.

It would be like if the winter Olympics came a year early, only better.

I think this means that the majority of engineers should be women. At least, I'd rather drive over THAT bridge.

This is fucking genius.

My only wish is that you would make profound statements through quirky real life examples more often. It reminds me vaguely of a Chuck Palahniuk argument for some reason, perhaps the candid tone. (Though if you hate good ol' Chuck then forget i said that!)

I think i definitely fit this feminine template. I always want to be fully and completely prepared for whatever i do, to maximize my chances of success and minimize the risk of looking like a total jackass. It's not so much that i'm afraid of failure as it is i figure if i'm going to do something (and oh how rare that is) i may as well do it right.

If you go for the Big Texan, i offer my services as trainer. And as trainer, my first order would be for us to fly to Japan and hang out with that hottie Takeru Kobayashi (cuz we caucasians always need an Asian Master - may as well get the hot young one while you can, he's a good reason to choose competitive food as your sport).

you should do it, too. Skinny people are usually at an advantage because they have faster metabolisms and their stomachs can expand more. The top ranked female competative eater is only 98 lbs.

We should only do it if we can make a lovably hilarious documentary that will make us the toast of sundance and launch our careers in entertainment.

Sweet! I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that experience. Um...let me rephrase that. I'd like to be anything other than the steak you're eating just so that I can witness the event. I don't wish to have the retaurant shut down merely because I'm curious.

And...glad to see you're posting (publicly) again!

I've read about a woman who succeeded at the Big Texan challenge. Interesting tie-in there with research. It hits home for me as well--I struggle with "female perfectionism" in my programming classes at Berkeley. They're full of fresh-from high school undergrad boys that have been hacking bad code throughout their teens. They tend to make a loop and put stuff in it and start debugging. I have to sit down and write out the math behind every subsection of the program before I can start coding. I doubt I could ever code professionally.

By the by, I ended followed [info]jwz's Twilight link here but I'm adding your blog because it's awesome. Thanks for posting!


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